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Dreger Details Rejected Talbot Trade Offer

Darren Dreger was on Edmonton’s TSN 1260 on Tuesday morning.

On Peter Chiarelli mentioning on Monday that he may have a goaltender in place before the draft even starts, and if Cam Talbot is still expected to be the goaltender the Oilers land:

“Yeah, I would expect it to be Cam Talbot. In fact, I would have thought based on the information that I had gathered last Thursday that a deal could have happened as early as the weekend and it didn’t. So now it’s Tuesday and Cam Talbot is still with the New York Rangers.

“And that’s through no fault of the Edmonton Oilers, the Buffalo Sabres, the San Jose Sharks – the teams most interested in Cam Talbot. The Rangers recognize that he’s a valuable piece. He’s got another year left at 1.45. He’s proven that he can be an excellent 1A goaltender. He came in long term in place of Henrik Lundqvist last season, who had some injury issues, obviously. And he proved that it appears he’s ready to be a starter.

“He’s the focus, I’m told, of the Oilers and the Buffalo Sabres, but they still have to find a way to get a deal done. I’m not certain of what has been offered from Edmonton’s perspective. I’m told that there was a team that offered two second round picks for Cam Talbot and that didn’t close the deal.

“So Sather and Jeff Gorton and management types of the New York Rangers are still on a bit of a fishing expedition. But I still think that a deal gets done and Edmonton is absolutely near the top of the list for Talbot.”

Source: TSN 1260/ Transcript: Nichols

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  • Uncle Si

    The Rangers are focussed on aquiring a first round pick. All the 2nds in the world aren’t going to get Talbot. A late first might …

    • Zeus

      Nobody is giving a first for a goalie when there are so many options out there. Talbot, Lehner/Anderson, Lehtonen, Niemi, Lack, Ramo, Enroth, Neuvirith and Dubnyk are all available, and there aren’t that many teams looking for a starter.

      • Yuhknopaboutwapt

        Well, then go and get one of those goalies. We’ll keep ours. If they weren’t interested in Cam they wouldn’t be throwing offers out there making such a push. If those teams who are supposedly interested in Cam don’t want to strike a deal, then go after one of those other goalies are more “valuable”. Simple as that.

        • Lac Sinisha

          Keep him he aint worth a first period. If someone gives that they already overpaid for a unproven starter as you guys say he is. Hes a backup till he proves hes a number one. Rangers are a good team which helped his stats period. If someone over pays the laugh will be on them when they find out hes not as everyone says a starter. lol

          • Yuhknopaboutwapt

            You mean overpay like Scrivens and Lindback? Hmmm, I wonder what those teams paid for those two pylons? lol Then they we will keep Cam. lol. Cam doesn’t have to prove anything. If you can lead a team with the Pens and Isles breaking down your neck in New York, that’s enough for me. Yes, he is a backup but I guess you didn’t see that in my last post. But like I’ve said over and over on this site, when Cam comes in and becomes a good goalie people like you will look back in retrospect and say “man, they fleeced the Rangers”. Am I right? Well, at least I can Cam is actually good…you know because I actually seen him play.

          • Spizzwolf

            no1 hates the rags more than i do, and i understand that Calbot has not “proven” to be a #1 starter because he has played behind the world’s best goalie. but lemme tell u he is the real deal. he won’t put up the same #s behind EDM’s defense but in time (once Nurse and some others develop – including who they take w their second first rounder), Talbot is legit. also dont forget, screw the rags word up

        • Zeus

          Wanting Cam Talbot doesn’t mean they are going to overpay ridiculously for him. Every GM out there knows about the weak goalie market. Peter Chiarelli stated that there are a lot of options he is looking at for goal for the Oilers. Bryan Murray stated he isn’t going to be happy with whatever return he has to take for one of his. The Rangers can certainly keep Talbot. And let him walk as a free agent with no compensation a year from now.

          • Yuhknopaboutwapt

            Then they will not get no compensation for him, if that’s what you think. There are over six goalies on the market. Easy pickings.

          • Zeus

            If they keep Talbot, the Rangers risk losing all trading partners, and they will probably be better off keeping him. He then will leave as a free agent in a year.

    • Lac Sinisha

      A first for a guy who people say is a starter when he hasnt proved anything yet. Hes on a very good team. Right now hes a backup goalie. Until he proves hes a number one he aint. My guess is someone will overpay for this guy and get burned

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  • Jacky Lee

    Keep Talbot and see how Hank perform this season. If Rangers have another fail season, trade Hank and keep Talbot. Rangers meanwhile should focus in getting rid of a couple of big contracts, the one like Dan Girardi, Staal, Glass…. The saving should able the Rangers to sign a power forward and a tough big defenseman. Rangers need size, they have too many small players. And if they really have to trade Cam, Sather must think of drafting someone who can provide immediate help,not 4,5 years later.

    • justin666

      lol good one

    • 21peterthegreat

      LOL
      You never did like Henrik’s 8.5M per did you Jacky …
      The “problem” with G and Staal is their NMC’s – they’re going nowhere!
      Cam is gone. I’m guessing in a blockbuster with 2 others for a sniper.
      Slats gonna leave with a bang!

      • Jacky Lee

        How are you buddy? You are right, never like that 8.5M loooooong contract. But my comment is not totally ridiculous though. Hank had his moment and his chance, it is just hard to see if Rangers fail to win the cup again next year. Hank did played some good games, only seems like something is missing from him. NMC can always waive by a player/players as you know. Hope you are right about Sather! Hey, it is nice to talk to you again, why don’t you get back on the Rangers site, it is always nice to exchange opinions with you.

        • 21peterthegreat

          Just read your comment on the current Zuke thread – wow. You’re still saying the same bs about Zuke. 2 years after I told you who this guy is – you still haven’t got a clue. I’m sorry Jacky – you’re just not worthy to be a Ranger fan. :(

          • Jacky Lee

            Pete, why so upset about it? Didn’t say any bad thing about him, just that 4.5M is a bit too much. Same as I said about Hank, DG, Staal, Nash and MCD. May be I am not a 100% Zucc fan, but still a Rangers fan.

    • Jeffk143

      Agree they need size, but you need to stop with the trade Hank nonsense, they just committed to him with that huge NTC contract, he will not be moved, Sather has been crystal clear on this. Also, you usually don’t find immediate help in the draft unless a top 5 pick, it is just not going to happen. Also, Buchnevich decided to stay in Russia again this year, claiming no spot for him to be had on roster, just a strange choice, Klingberg went to Russia as well.

      • Jacky Lee

        It is just a thought, know Hank won’t get trade no matter what. So disappointed that Buch signed one more year with KHL. It is true though there is no spot for him, can’t put him in the 4th line. With the cap increased, Sather very likely will lock up Hags, Step and JT, these three players will cost an arm and a leg.

        • Jeffk143

          Yeah, sucked hearing Buchnevich not wanting to take a chance. I felt like if he played well, he could have made the team, but he isn’t coming for a maybe. Here’s the problem, he has no interest of playing in AHL, and we will not guarantee him a spot, even after this year, because he hasn’t played the North American style, and might need adjustment time. This just might drag on. Stepan will cost a pretty penny, I think he becomes our #1 center next year playing with Nash and Kreider. I think they will try and put Brassard with Zucc and Hayes, the big winger like Pouliot they are missing. Miller will get a bridge deal, fairly reasonable. Hagelin is the problem. He wants $3.5-4 million per, and that is too much for him. He is a valuable player, but may overprice himself out of here in a trade. I think the Rangers realize they need some size, and a couple of changes. And yes, was Carl Klingberg who signed with KHL as well, and we thought of him as a possibility next year. I want to upgrade our 4th line center, Dom Moore was a nice player, did a good job here, but be real, he is turning 35 in August, we need a guy with more size, energy, and grit on the 4th line, a huge mistake if we re-sign him. The offseason will get going tomorrow, expect Talbot to be traded tomorrow.

          • Jacky Lee

            Absolutely right Jeff, absolutely.

  • https://hardcorerangershockey.wordpress.com/ KingDeathMetal

    Rangers are going to make out like bandits on this trade. If they are rejecting offers of two second rounders, that’s a good sign. NYR is either going to wind up with two seconds and a prospect, or a first and potentially more. You may not think he’s worth it, but there are crazy GMs out there willing to pay a big price.
    On my Rangers blog, I have a breakdown of Talbot’s value: http://hardcorerangershockey.com

    • 21peterthegreat

      Rangers being in a win now mode, I’d be surprised if Cam’s not a piece in a trade for a differencemaker – Yak maybe?

      • Jacky Lee

        Yak and a high pick is good.

        • 21peterthegreat

          Yak would probably take Cam/Hags/Klein back. Possibly + …
          BIG chance to take, but imo Yak is a ppg player in AV’s s system.
          I’m great Jacky – hope you are as well :)

          • Jacky Lee

            Sather should consider DG instead of Klein, if DG is willing to waive his NMC. Imo, Klein is a better player than DG but DG value is higher than KK and can save Rangers more cap space.

          • 21peterthegreat

            No doubt G’s value is higher, but no chance he’s gonna waive for EDM. But even with the C/H/K package, we’re shipping out 6.575M per and taking back only 2.5M per. That makes room for a gritty quality player as well! We both know we need that – bad …!

          • Jacky Lee

            Either way would be acceptable, but what I like most is Yak is an immediate help, high draft pick only for the future and we’ve been waiting too long for that cup. Hope it all work out for the Rangers. Btw, news is NHL raise the Cap to 71.4M today, good news for Rangers and a few other clubs.

          • 21peterthegreat

            I’m fine with 71.4M. Before xmas word was 73M, then just a couple of months ago most said it wouldn’t go up at all.
            And btw Jacky – I’m still reading the comments over at BSU.
            Keep it up girl 😉

          • Jeffk143

            I see you mentioning Yak for Talbot/Hags/Klein, and mentioning what we ship out vs what we take, but you are not adding the fact it opens up 2 roster spots that must be filled, so the 2.5 from Yak, will also need a backup, which will cost about 1.5 million in cap space,, and assume Skjei takes the other spot, what does he make, close to 1 million, so we are only opening up 1.5 million in cap space, with a lesser backup, a 3rd pair rookie, and Yak, which is a huge risk, we have enough of the forwards who aren’t defensively responsible. What I am saying is in a 3 for 1 trade, it doesn’t open up much more than 1.5-2 million in cap space, and we then downgrade our backup, and cross our fingers with Yak, I’d pass.

      • Zeus

        The Oilers might consider Yak for Talbot, Hagelin and Klein.

  • John Portuondo

    everyone is always trying to screw the rangers on deals, and they have! Talbot is going to be a teams number 1 goalie we need to get as much as we can time to play hardball and if nobody meets r price we keep him

    • Jacky Lee

      Agree, otherwise just keep him, why force a deal!

    • Lac Sinisha

      A number one thats debatable easy

      • T.H. Browne

        He is a #1 goalie, no doubt. It’s just that he is behind one of the very best in the league. Talbot is better than half the goalies who already are playing 45 games or more per year. Just look at Talbot’s form and you can see that’s true.

    • Jeffk143

      I agree if noone meets our price, we keep him, but here is the issue, he is gone after next season, he will try to land a starting job, and that isn’t happening in NY, no matter what some fans think. So, do the Rangers let him walk and get nothing, trade him at trade deadline, and get even less than they would get now, because teams will already have solved their goalie needs, and he then becomes a short term rental? The time to move him is now if looking to secure the maximum assets we can.

      • T.H. Browne

        If Sather still believes this Ranger team can go all the way, he will keep Talbot unless a team will give up a proven playoff big time scorer who camps out in front of opposition goalies.

  • Lac Sinisha

    I hope edmonton gets him. They will overpay for a backup.

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  • xnyer

    A high #1 pick and a big defense man for Talbot

    • T.H. Browne

      Not enough as the Rangers are deep behind the blue line. Rangers need a proven playoff winner up front in front of the net. He should also be above average at face-off wins, if possible. But, mainly, the Rangers need a goal scorer in the playoffs and not someone who shoots from the outside, someone who sets up camp in front of opposition goalies.

  • T.H. Browne

    The Ranger GM stated that he is “all in” regarding the team that he put on the ice last season.

    If he believes the Rangers are still capable of wining the Cup this coming year then that would trump trading Talbot for draft picks, even if Talbot is UFA next year.

    The Cup means that much to NYC and to the Ranger organization.

    Talbot proved he is a winner and the only way any team will get him is to give up something that will make the Rangers that much more likely to win the Cup this coming year. What would that be?

    The Rangers need a proven playoff scoring power forward, preferably a top line center.

    You want Talbot then you need to trade up big for him. Otherwise, he stays in NYC this year.

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  • mattimar

    terrible ..they wind up with a 2nd and 3rd? Wow .. Sather did not work any magic here.

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